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Old 07-23-2013, 11:26 AM
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Default DD Tow vehicle? Looking for real world suggestions/feedback

Picked up an open steel trailer finally to haul the 240 to track days. I'm looking to get rid of my current daily too and since CT taxes and insurance are killer I'm looking for a unicorn all-in-one daily and tow vehicle.

Shooting for a used vehicle 2010 and up, somewhere $35K and below. Anything older, especially American cars have pile of junk interiors...and living in the northeast I'm a fan of creature comforts like heated seats. I know it sounds extremely crazy, but ideally I want something with good gas mileage as long as it's economical.

I have it very loosely 'narrowed' down to 2 that I'm looking at:

A. 2011+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. Aside from 2008, unfortunately Jeep is just releasing the diesel for 2014 which at $55K is still too expensive, so we're looking at the gas V8--so it's horrible on gas (at 15mpg combined) and I'm sure gas prices aren't going to get any better. The GC has less towing capacity (~6400lbs) than the Touareg (7700lbs). I'm a little concerned about quality as it seems to be rated below average.

B. 2011+ Touareg TDI. In the latest gen they removed air suspension, it's more costly, but comes closer to evening out in gas mileage as it gets 22mpg combined. (5-6 years breakeven @ 15K miles a year), In general, price is about $10K more than the Jeep GC, but it's also worth about $10K more at resale. Quality seems to be average, but maintenance might be just a little more expensive.

C. 2010+ Tahoe, but I don't know if I want something that big. I really don't haul alot of crap.

Any other recommendations? I don't really want/need a gigantic diesel that can tow enough to pull the earth out of it's orbit and shoot black smoke out of it's 8" smoke stacks.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:57 PM
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I bought a 2006 Grand Cherokee for my tow vehicle / daily. The interior isn't the greatest nor the mileage but it had no problems towing a uhual car trailer with my buddies 05 Legacy GT. Does great moving people comfortably and getting groceries / parts.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:09 PM
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If it were me I'd go with the Tahoe. Chevy can do a truck based SUV right, and the newer ones don't skimp on creature comforts.

Jeeps? I know nothing about them, esp the newer ones.

VW... GERMAN DOWNWARD SPIRAL OF ELECTRONIC DEATH IN 3 YEARS. I'm sure it seems nice on paper where everything works in theory.

I got a 2003 suburban (1/2 ton 5.3 2wd flavor) as a DD / tow vehicle. Mostly because the mileage difference to a smaller something that had at least a 5k lbs towing capacity seemed negligible. I have a short commute so the 12 towing / 14 city / 18 highway MPG on regular doesn't bother me. Lets not forget AC that can freeze a small house on the hottest summer day. Long wheel base doesn't hurt MPG too bad, and makes towing even easier.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:16 PM
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I've been eyeing awd honda pilots.... they get decent gas mileage and can tow 5000 lbs...
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:51 PM
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I've been eyeing awd honda pilots.... they get decent gas mileage and can tow 5000 lbs...
I saw one towing an open steel bed trailer and s2000, the pilot was nearly tucking the rear tires....
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:55 PM
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I have an 08 highlander and a 13 cayenne diesel. both can tow an open trailer but i've only used the highlander for towing so far. the highlander isn't great for towing but can get the job done, while keeping about 15 mpg towing and averaging 19 on 87 octane. otherwise it's a toyota. not much else needs to be said in terms of reliability and maintenance. it's a comfy suv with one up on say the 4R cuz it's not a truck platform. a little cushier for DD IMO. Looks a lot less masculine and rugged for sure though.

from what i've heard, the touar tdi is supposed to be the little bro of the CD. not quite as attractive or sporty but still has the drivetrain (is the touar 8 speed?). great for towing and has a good amount of luxury. my wife and i love our CD, but i can see getting reamed for out of warranty breaks or failures by porsche... similar but to a lesser extent hopefully in the vw. i've done an oil change myself and it's easy. $360 from the stealership, no thanks.

edit: google tells me the touar also has the 8speed trans. you should get mid to high 20s combined on it. i get just under 28 average every tank, and the CD is rated at 19/29.. a lot like the touar. ~650 miles for a full tank.

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Old 07-23-2013, 03:09 PM
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I saw one towing an open steel bed trailer and s2000, the pilot was nearly tucking the rear tires....
s2000 CR? I probably know that guy I have yet to ask him how well it actually works, but he tows around with it a good amount.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:23 PM
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I think the Pilot has a 4500lb towing capacity and I'd be maxing that out. I have two friends with Pilots but the interior is not crazy impressive. I've heard some people say you should only go up to 80% of the max towing capacity. I'm sure there's some safety room in the numbers they project, but for repair purposes I'd like to play it safe. hah

Yeah, the t-reg tdi is an 8 speed with a cooler and is essentially the Cayenne diesel.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:49 PM
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I just picked up a Nissan Titan for this same purpose. I was lucky to find a 2005 with only 47k miles for a good price in excellent shape. I towed an RX-7 about 100 miles two weeks ago and got 16 MPG between the trip down with the empty trailer and the trip back. Truck never felt like it was struggling.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:32 PM
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s2000 CR? I probably know that guy I have yet to ask him how well it actually works, but he tows around with it a good amount.
Was black, probably a CR. Saw it during a philly SCCA autocross at Warminster community park.

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