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  • #16
    Haha true, I also hear that more people want to borrow it/you for hauling their stuff too!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by 0wn3r View Post
      Haha true, I also hear that more people want to borrow it/you for hauling their stuff too!
      Charge them. I do.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sleepy_Steve View Post
        One thing I've noticed about full sized SUV's and Pickups... People say they won't need a full sized SUV / pickup that much till they own one.


        So true.... The DMax inside is essentially the same as a Tahoe. That motor is pretty good, but the Allison tranny is awesome, completely bulletproof. The other big 2 only now have caught up.

        If you want a bulletproof motor go Cummins common rail, but stay away from the 2007.5 Ram. Too many teething probs.

        You could get a crew cab, they often have a slightly smaller beds, but like Steve and Beejus said, you wind up using them.

        I've had 2 diesel Rams, my first turned into a commuter, even after I lifted it. Only reason I replaced it was the Gen 4 Ram interior/build quality was much better. New truck looks bone stock, but the deleted/tuned motor and tranny combo is pretty outrageous. It's surprising how quickly 7500+ pounds can get up and go. Still getting 24+ mpg. Tows like no tomorrow. Sounds like a jet.

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        • #19
          From everything I've been reading, you'd be pushing the limit with a 4 runner or anything Toyota for that matter. The Touareg diesel has a 7000lb towing capacity. The new F150 eco boost (twin turbo v6) trucks can get up to 10,000 lbs capacity with decent gas mileage.
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          • #20
            A friend of mine tows with a Toureg and is happy with it. He's done 22mpg towing his e36.

            Another friend has a new Durango which has nice creature comforts and does well for a gasser. Did something like 16mpg towing my car.

            I'm happy with my Titan. They're dirt cheap and haul nicely, with decent options for actual comfort.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by AceInHole View Post
              A friend of mine tows with a Toureg and is happy with it. He's done 22mpg towing his e36.

              Another friend has a new Durango which has nice creature comforts and does well for a gasser. Did something like 16mpg towing my car.
              Todd was telling me about someone with Touareg and they liked it, prob the same person. I've been leaning toward one, but it doesn't have ventilated seats so I'm not sure how I'll live.

              I'm honestly scared of the Grand Cherokee and Durango reliability--as they are based off the same platform, almost everything about them seems to be the same with the Durango slightly below (I forget what exactly it was, but I don't know why people would pick the Durango over the GC). Plus I really don't know what is happening to the business side of Dodge lately--they aren't even really naming their vehicles 'Dodge' anymore. I started looking at 2011 GCs until I saw the coutnless number of service bulletins on them. You name a part on the car and it was probably on there. Plus I've heard of trannies going out on them as well.

              If I was to get a gasser at the moment, I think I would lean toward the Tahoe. The only reason I shy away from them is just the sheer size. (That and apparently 08-09 had bad transmission problems) Dailying is just me, so I dont think I need a 7-passenger, 15/16mpg combined vehicle for that.

              Trucks just don't seem to get good gas mileage for dailying from all the research I've been doing.
              97 Kouki SR 240

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              • #22
                Titan isn't a bad idea. It can haul up to 9500lbs.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by eye-5 View Post
                  From everything I've been reading, you'd be pushing the limit with a 4 runner or anything Toyota for that matter. The Touareg diesel has a 7000lb towing capacity. The new F150 eco boost (twin turbo v6) trucks can get up to 10,000 lbs capacity with decent gas mileage.
                  A 4th gen 4Runner V6 with an aftermarket hitch to use a WDH (good idea on anything 3,500 lbs+) can do 6300 lbs. The V8 with the stock hitch can do 7300 or something like that. The 1st gear is pretty short, and both engines make enough torque to get it moving in a reasonable time span.

                  The 5th gen V6 has a wimpy bumper mounted receiver that can't do a WDH so it's limited to 5000 lbs that way, but I don't see why the rest of the vehicle can't hold up just fine. The lack of aftermarket receivers is holding it back though, but no such problem on the 4th gens.

                  R51 Pathfinders can do 6000 lbs stock, and the VQ40 felt like it had more than enough power. I wasn't a huge fan of the driving dynamics tho'.


                  A 240 on an open steel trailer isn't that big of a load really. Not counting cargo you're at 4300-4900 lbs or so depending on the trailer and your car's weight. I think it all comes down to realistic expectations when towing, and being fine with not doing 80 mph with a trailer behind you like I see lots of people in TX do with their big diesel duallies. That also probably explains why I see so many freaking blown out trailer tires around here... (I see on average 3 a day, no joke)



                  A 1 ton V8 pickup from any make is going to tow it just fine, the question is are you fine with getting about 14-17 mpg combined and driving a truck all the time?


                  I also wouldn't own any VAG vehicles out of warranty - ever.
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                  • #24
                    My Xterra is limited to 5000lb. The VQ40 has plenty of power for more but I think it's limited by the factory receiver. I actually bought this rig to go on wheeling trips and tow my 40 to and from events. I also needed something for towing a boat.
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                    • #25
                      Yep, it's limited by the receiver. The R51 Pathfinder has the same engine and trans (and frame I think, just a little longer) and it'll do 6000 lbs.

                      How does the XTerra tow the 240?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Def View Post
                        Yep, it's limited by the receiver. The R51 Pathfinder has the same engine and trans (and frame I think, just a little longer) and it'll do 6000 lbs.

                        How does the XTerra tow the 240?
                        I have yet to get the car out of the garage. I'm finalizing my VET build(in the works for 3yrs now). I'll be taking it to get tuned soon hopefully, I'll report back.

                        The Armada, Titan, Xterra, Frontier and the Pathfinder all share the same frame. I'm pretty sure the Pathfinder and the Armada have IRS rears though.
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                        • #27
                          Not used as a daily but I managed to secure a tow vehicle. I'm the operations manager / co owner of a small tech company. One of our vans bit the dust after 200,000 miles. I decided we needed a pickup to haul big ladders / equipment etc... to replace it.

                          I was able to pick up a used 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 crew cab 5.3 liter with 85,000 miles for a steal of a deal. The tech that will be primarily using it is a friend and totally cool with me using it for track days and weekends when needed. This thing is pretty pimp. Whoever owned it really babied it. It is in immaculate shape and came with almost all of the options available at the time. It's good for 7400lbs towing so with an open trailer, I'll have no issues.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by eye-5 View Post
                            came with almost all of the options available at the time.
                            For American trucks I can only imagine (jokingly)

                            FM radio!?
                            heat AND A/C!?
                            Steering wheel!?

                            If anyone's ever seen the Dodge Aries commerical (search for that on youtube, it's black and white and I think it's called "1988 Dodge Aries Commercial"), I envision what the american truck commercials must be like.
                            97 Kouki SR 240

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                            • #29
                              Crew cab
                              dual zone climate control
                              bose audio with rear audio controls
                              Leather heated, and memory power seats
                              self adjusting, folding, heated power mirrors with signals in them
                              4x4
                              the onstar crap that I'll never use.
                              If it was newer it would have an aux or USB input but just a little too old.
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                              • #30
                                Dual post.
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