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  • Firewall/bulkhead connector

    I'm looking for one that has more then 60 positions as I want to run an sr harness through the firewall with room for expansion.

    Worse case scenario I will have two bulk head connector.

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  • #2
    I'd recommend you don't go larger than 32 pins or so on the connectors. you can go higher, but you risk bending/breaking pins easier as you go up on the pin count. the larger diameter connectors are less protected in the middle as they're easier to hit, as well as easier to misalign as you're trying to assemble them.
    At work, I've had problems with some of the 32 pin conenctors getting a bit flaky over time. the 60 pin ones were OMFG horrible on reliability and wear. And at ~$400 per connector to re-terminate, it made more sense to run two cables and use two lower cost and lower labor connectors.
    Originally posted by SoSideways
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    • #3
      Where's a good place to get these? The Delphi 22 is everywhere.... But that would require me to buy 3 and I will be really close to using all the pins and needing a fourth.

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      • #4
        How much are you looking to spend?

        I really want one when I get my engine harness built eventually, but they are not cheap at all. The milspec ones are like $200+. (engine harness would be milspec, so may as well get same quality plug)

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        • #5
          Not that much. I'm looking for something like these.

          http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/w...kit-p-364.html

          I can't see putting mil spec connectors on a street and track car.

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          • #6
            Thoughts on Deutsch HDP20 Series Connectors?

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            • #7
              Those are defiantly reasonably priced connectors...

              The only issue is the $250 crimping tool!

              I'm also looking high temp adhesive labels. I can put on the harness. I'm hopping there is a set labels i can use with a very common label maker.


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              • #8
                Realistically here, do you really need to be pulling you wiring harness in and out of the car often ?

                That stuff is cute and all copying racecars, but you really shouldnt be swapping engines every other week, so unless you've got 3 engines sitting there that you're going to put the same engine harness on, this is just going to be a lot of wasted money and time.

                Let alone the "labeling" .... every single connector on an SR or KA is virtually unique to the component it goes to, if you need labels to figure it out, you probably shouldnt be touching it.

                Get a good S14 engine harness grommet, route your wiring through that, and install a couple of 9 pin circular plastic body AMP connectors, one near the RR and one at the FR or FL of the engine, that should allow for more expansion than you can possibly need.

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                • #9
                  Re: Firewall/bulkhead connector

                  I'm already have at least 6 independence circuits that have nothing to do with the factory harness. The cars going to continue to develop as I dial things in .

                  It makes sense to plan for this while the engine is out of the car.

                  if you have something relevant to what I need please provide some guidance otherwise responses like this 1 aren't worth my time.

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                  • #10
                    You can rent the crimp tool. I believe there was even a thread on here about a wiring guy/business, that does precisely that.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by konjiki7 View Post
                      if you have something relevant to what I need please provide some guidance otherwise responses like this 1 aren't worth my time.
                      Quite the contrary, IMO. You *want* a harness. He's telling you its not going to benefit you any given a street car. That's very relevant to the conversation.
                      Even if you pull the engine every 6 months, it takes what, 15-20 min to unplug the harness to pull the engine? You're going to spend multiple hours and hundreds of dorras to save yourself 20minutes a couple times a year?

                      He's not being a prick- just being realistic.
                      Originally posted by SoSideways
                      I don't care what color they are as long as they are LONG AND HARD.
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                      '96 240SX- The Track Toy

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                      • #12
                        I've been eyeing a 10-20 pin connector for data acquisition expansion. But the engine harness connector seems a bit much if you're not running a 13B.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by konjiki7 View Post
                          I'm already have at least 6 independence circuits that have nothing to do with the factory harness. The cars going to continue to develop as I dial things in .

                          It makes sense to plan for this while the engine is out of the car.

                          if you have something relevant to what I need please provide some guidance otherwise responses like this 1 aren't worth my time.

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                          So what you are saying is that you dont know wtf you're doing, and you REALLY gotta imitate a race car like all your zilvia faggot buddys ?


                          Because I'd LOVE for you to show me some sort of realistic plan that you wouldnt have everything covered with two 9 pin AMP connectors at a cost of a couple $ each.

                          Again back in reality land, three of those delphi connectors side by side is 190mm, connections that take removable terminals arent going to be very small, and using actual circular metal body AMP connectors is probably going to run you north of $600 just in connectors, let alone you sitting there soldering 160 wire connections and keeping track of them.


                          Feel free to show me that you've got need for more than two 9P amps, or even need for more than a single 37P circular and a 9P.


                          However, if you are still silly enough to be set on doing this, here is the what you want, they are AMP, sealed, take pins, are more compact than the delphi 22, and have 37P each.

                          http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...pEMoCjrzgt2NNG

                          For the firewall

                          http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...pEMjbO2ucnAuLn

                          For the engine side

                          Thats about as helpful as i'm going to be on the subject, as there is plenty more information that would help, but you already dont know how to listen to those with far more experience on the subject.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Matt93SE View Post
                            Quite the contrary, IMO. You *want* a harness. He's telling you its not going to benefit you any given a street car. That's very relevant to the conversation.
                            Even if you pull the engine every 6 months, it takes what, 15-20 min to unplug the harness to pull the engine? You're going to spend multiple hours and hundreds of dorras to save yourself 20minutes a couple times a year?

                            He's not being a prick- just being realistic.
                            I never took it as him being a prick. The advice was useless. Asked for connect advice not for . Not random opinion with zero back ground knowledge. The want statement can be applied to anything. Lol
                            I have plans on how i want to develop my S chassis over the next 3 years. Like most people with s chassis you reach a point where you want to stop making compromises and move to a track car.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Z28ricer View Post
                              So what you are saying is that you dont know wtf you're doing, and you REALLY gotta imitate a race car like all your zilvia faggot buddys ?


                              Because I'd LOVE for you to show me some sort of realistic plan that you wouldnt have everything covered with two 9 pin AMP connectors at a cost of a couple $ each.

                              Again back in reality land, three of those delphi connectors side by side is 190mm, connections that take removable terminals arent going to be very small, and using actual circular metal body AMP connectors is probably going to run you north of $600 just in connectors, let alone you sitting there soldering 160 wire connections and keeping track of them.


                              Feel free to show me that you've got need for more than two 9P amps, or even need for more than a single 37P circular and a 9P.


                              However, if you are still silly enough to be set on doing this, here is the what you want, they are AMP, sealed, take pins, are more compact than the delphi 22, and have 37P each.

                              http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...pEMoCjrzgt2NNG

                              For the firewall

                              http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...pEMjbO2ucnAuLn

                              For the engine side

                              Thats about as helpful as i'm going to be on the subject, as there is plenty more information that would help, but you already dont know how to listen to those with far more experience on the subject.
                              This guys always rubs people the wrong way. Nothing new

                              More important my take away from this

                              Pin counts higher than 32 can effect durability

                              Hpd20 connectors are a possible solution. No one seems to have experience with these.

                              Delphi 22pin connector seems to be the bang for buck option. No one seems to have experience with these either....

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