Recommend a setup for S13

[chau]

Hey guys I'm new here and need some advice. I have an S13 fastback with 5 lug and evo brembos. I'm also on coilovers. I want to get a track setup. I'm definitely going with RPF1's. The original plan was 17x8 +35 all around with 235/35/17 dunlop direzza star specs. Front and rear fenders are slightly rolled. I'd like to run the same setup all around so I can rotate the tires. Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as getting a good setup? Thanks

[veilside180sx]

You'll want at least a 245 all around for a track setup.

You'd be better off with the 17x9 +35 and run a spacer up front.

[Matt93SE]

Depending on power levels, 235 may be plenty. On a stockish KA, I can overheat a 235 R comp in the summer, but I don't ever get them hot enough to stick in winter- I'll go to a 225 in winter.

For street tires, a 235 is plenty for anything less than advanced DE drivers.
I would think that you could go to a 17x8 +25 setup and get the wheels a bit farther out though.

where are you located? If you're near houston, I have a metric ****ton of 17x8 wheels anywhere from +40 to +20 and a stack of spacers you can play with if you want to come by and try some stuff on.

[2Fass240us]

Also, how much power are you making? Matt makes like 100rwhp. :D

[chau]

Thanks for the replies. In terms of power, I'm on a fairly stock sr20 motor. The car is located in Georgia. Thanks for the offer and quick replies.

[2Fass240us]

My S13 was 2,400 pounds, made 175/175, and felt mostly capable on 245 Hankook Ventus R-S2's. I wish I had a lot more grip at CMP, and just a little bit more at VIR. This is highly dependent on driver skill though.

I liked the way a 17x9 +24 wheel fit. It gives you an inch more track front and rear over a +38 and makes it so you didn't have to run as much spacer in the front.

[Matt93SE]

Also, how much power are you making? Matt makes like 100rwhp. :D

Thus the first line in my post. He said what he was planning for wheels, suspension, and brakes, but never said how much power he had. there's always one more variable.

but yeah.. with 200+ hp, you'll want more tire than a 235. Especially on a street tire. you'll want 255 or better. if you go to an R comp, then you could go back to a narrower tire.
(FYI, my 225 Hoosiers are actually wider than my 245 Yokohama all-seasons on the Infiniti...)

[chau]

My brother, who is helping me build the car is stuck on going with 17x8 and 235 tires because he doesnt want to run into clearance issues with the fenders, brakes, and suspensions. I understand that a wider tire would provide more grip for the horsepower/weight of the s13. Do you guys have pictures of your setup?

[turtl631]

17x9 +22 is a nice RPF1 size that will still fit 225s if you want to go that narrow, but will work great with 245s or 255s. Fitment will be close with the larger tires, but doable.

[240sxTTC]

S13 wheel/tire fitment has been discussed many times and I'm sure searching would provide requested info for your inquiry but here ya go.

17x9 +35 offset F & R. +25mm spacer in front and +15mm in the rear. Tires are 245/40R17 Hoosier A6's. Front camber is -4.0 and rear is -2.0. Pulled fenders at all four corners. No rubs but it is close everwhere in the front.

The best offset for the 17x9 RPF1's would be +22 F & R. 10mm spacer in the front and none in the back would work great with 245 Hoosiers. Hoosiers tend to run wider than similar width tires.

http://markus.smugmug.com/Winking-Lizard-Motorsports/Rob-Symonds-940-Nissan-240sx/NASA-MidOhio-August-2010-1st/Clark-ALMS-MidOh10-16/1011517739_fxzzv-L.jpg

[Def]

17x9 +22 is a nice RPF1 size that will still fit 225s if you want to go that narrow, but will work great with 245s or 255s. Fitment will be close with the larger tires, but doable.

This.

DO NOT go with an expensive 8" wide wheel, you will regret it later, and they won't be worth crap to S chassis guys.

I run 255/40-17 on 17x9 +17s. Stock body, need a heavy pull in the rear due to the S14 rear subframe making the wheels more like +12s. With a +22 you'd be fine with rolled fenders and a stock S13 rear subframe.

Go with more tire, you'll enjoy not easily overheating them on summer days.

I make about 300 rwhp or so and can overheat them (street tires) if I really lean on them.

[chau]

Will I have problems with rubbing on full lock? I would like to drive my car to and from the track and take occasional weekend cruises. Thanks again.

[turtl631]

Depends how extensively you roll/pull/hammer things, its hard to say exactly. It's fine though, even if it rubs a little at full lock, you'll be okay driving around town, and it shouldn't be too egregious as long as you don't pick some crazy setup.

[Def]

I get slight rubbing right around full lock with 255/40s - not an issue.

[Epstein]

Don't forget about brake clearance. None of the 9's will clear without spacers. I did it once on my s13 with 350z brembos and 17x9+35's, but I can't remember if I needed 10 or 15mm spacers. I had both. 17x9+22's need spacers, too. Enkei makes a 17x8.5+30 that is spec'd to clear all Brembos, but it looks terrible on an S13 without spacers, plus it won't clear coils with a 245, I don't think.

I had a mild roll and 255's on my S13 with 17x9+35 in the rear. It really depends on how much camber you want to run, as to how much pull you need. 1* is 6mm if I remember my calculations correctly.

[2Fass240us]

Don't forget about brake clearance. None of the 9's will clear without spacers. ... 17x9+22's need spacers, too.Neither of these statements is true as a generalization. Brake clearance is more a funtion of spoke design than wheel width.

My Cobra R replicas clear my Wilwoods without a spacer, and they're. 17x9 +24.

[Bubba]

He was talking about the RPF1 9's in the available offsets.
Comprehension FTW.

[2Fass240us]

He was talking about the RPF1 9's in the available offsets.
Comprehension FTW.I guess that's what I get for posting while not you.

[Bubba]

Don't take the smartass parts of my post seriously, I'm just kidding. Geez.
But I'm sure he was only talking about the RPF1's.

[2Fass240us]

srsly. geez.

I don't care what offset they are as long as they are WIDE and HARD.

[mattah]

I run 255/40-17 on 17x9 +17s. Stock body, need a heavy pull in the rear due to the S14 rear subframe making the wheels more like +12s.

Hey Def, how much did you end up pulling? I will have almost the exact same setup and offsets (+18), and it looks like a really big pull. Did you have any issues with the top of the guard popping in?

[Hey DON]

I've ran 17x9 on all four corners with 255/40/17 for years works good until you add tons of power. i had no problems. i rec. running the front a alittle wider stance in the front than the rear. i ran a +35mm with no fender pull. i ran a +35mm on the front with 10mm spacer with no fender work.

[Def]

I pulled mine with a fender roller. It needs a pretty big one with an S14 rear subframe (about 1-1.25").

The top of the fender did pull in on the passenger side, not on the driver side.

[eazye2000]

This is good information. I'm trying to put together a set of 17" wheels for my S13. Tire size is in the 245 range as well.
I'm leaning for something in the +25 to +35 range so I can rock spacers if needed. It's easier to add, than take away...
I'm so paranoid about the front though. I feel like a squirrel thinking about crossing the street....

[Def]

I run 255/40-17 on a 17x9 +17 up front under stock fenders that have been lightly "pulled out" by hand. Something like a 245/40 and +25 would easily fit in the fenders.

The 255s rub before full lock (mainly on the back side).

[FeiGai]

I just got a set of rims 17x9.5 +19 came with falken 615 255/40/17
How would those fit the front? Are 255 too much for it?

[Matt93SE]

Why don't you put them on and come back and tell us? :)

[McCoy]

I just got a set of rims 17x9.5 +19 came with falken 615 255/40/17
How would those fit the front? Are 255 too much for it?
S13 or S14? On my S13 17x9.5 +28 with 255/40/17's just barely clear and that's with 2.5 of camber.

[Def]

I just got a set of rims 17x9.5 +19 came with falken 615 255/40/17
How would those fit the front? Are 255 too much for it?

Will stick out past stock fenders a little bit unless you have your camber plate completely kicked inboard. Even then it'll be very very close.

[FeiGai]

Haha I would love to put them on and try it but I haven't had the chance to pick up my parts from across the boarder. At the moment I just removed all the 4lug hubs. It is for and s13 and yes I have camber plates.

[Def]

You're going to have to pull the crap out of the fenders to have a chance of fitting them. Hope you don't expect to do it with stock untouched fenders, because I don't ever see that happening as the outside of the tire is 10 mm further out than my tires.

[FeiGai]

Yeah my rears are already pulled just have to do the fronts. Just wanted to see what I have to look forward to doing in the next little while.

[s14akouki]

hey guys, not to thread jack but i was wondering how would 17x9/10 +40/+40 work on a s14? i hear you guys saying the subframe is wider on the s14? would i need a roll or pull or anything? and i'd run any tire size that makes it easier to fit. thanks!

[Bubba]

Buy a different offset.

[eazye2000]

Here's one for you guys.

17x8.25 +25 all around on an S13. Enough room all around? I have a roll front and rear.

[veilside180sx]

Here's one for you guys.

17x8.25 +25 all around on an S13. Enough room all around? I have a roll front and rear.

I don't think you'll have an issue. I've never seen a 8.25" wide wheel...

[eazye2000]

^ Yeah, it's a new cheapie wheel from XXR. It's a knock-off of a knock-off. Model 527 to look like the MB Battle. But the price is right.

I had 17x7.5 all around, with a +20 up front, and a +15 in the rear and I liked the way they fit. I'm looking for something in the same fitment (keep them in the fenders), while trying to get more rubber on the road.

They have a 17x9.75 +25 that would be awesome on the rear if it would fit.

I'm trying to use this wheel calculator to see what fits, and I'm having a hard time.
http://www.autolounge.net/calculators/tirespacing.html

[Bubba]

Unfortunately, the only camera I own is my phone.

245/40's on 17x9 +17 MB Weapons. Barely fit in the fenders but I'm at less than 2* negative camber also.

Front fender fasteners by the door are disconnected so I could hand-stretch them to cover the tires. Hate if you must, but I made it all for without retarded camber. :-D

Rear fenders did have an altercation with my baseball bat though.

Fresh alignment and terrible lighting. LoL
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh266/S13Bubba/Frankencar/utf-8BSU1BRzAwMjkuanBn.jpg

[FeiGai]

17x9.5 +19 255/40/17

Just need a little more pull
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168412_498612233567_504343567_6269709_3585752_n.jp g

Just clears the front strut
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180552_491393688567_504343567_6160456_3001202_n.jp g