Your typical s14

[EfiniRX7]

Here is my typical s14. I traded my FD for this car to my buddy. My friend is Peter from Defined Autoworks he used to own this car. I have known these guys for about 4 years now. The opportunity arose for me to get this car, which is many steps above my FD. I have driven an event with this car so far, and will be going to one Sunday. I can say this car would eat my FD for lunch.

The suspension on the car is second to none. Peter spent years getting his hands on the best parts, and touching every part on the car if it could be made better. The car has all Moon Face racing suspension, except the Kazama ruca's in the rear, and Racing Gear coilovers. The coilovers are built by Showa. I had RG's on my FD, but peter had the $3000 v2's.

I cant wait to put as much time in on this car as I did on my FD. My FD was no slouch either. Here is a pic of the old FD. It was a work in progress, not quite ready for the track. The trade put me light years ahead as far as a developed car goes.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_2876.jpg

Here is the car, the engine pics are at the bottom.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3131.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3121.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3120.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3119.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3118.jpg

peak power ( you can see the spike to 16 pounds then it holds 14 pounds to redline)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/523Rwhp13b-re-w.jpg

peak torque

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/384Rwtq13b-re-w.jpg


We were stunned, I don't think there has been a 2 rotor with just a half bridge and regular old 35r make this power. I will provide more detailed specs further down. The 35r is just a dual bb precision, NOT a billet wheel.

Here are the engine specs

13b-rew block and irons
13b-re port runners
D.A circuit port on the primaries
D.A half bridge on secondaries
D.A turbo exhaust port
Fd 9.0:1 rotors, balanced and clearanced.
3mm Apex seals
solid corner seals
New FC rotor housings
Coolant jacket modifications
race rotor bearings
high pressure oil reg
FC front cover
13b-re intake manifold

Turbo

1.00 divided turbine
p-trim wheel, standard wheel
.70 compressor housing

Electromotive Tec GT
Inductive coils
S4 Fc waterpump
Racing beat front pulley
Mazda comp waterpump pulley

Engine bay

Engine bay pics. The engine placement is excellent in the chassis. The front of the engine is even with the shock towers. The top of the block is about half way up on the towers. The intake is pretty tall so it looks like the engine sits high. The engine was initially designed to use a dry sump system, so the bottom of the block basically sits on the subframe. The subframe was modified and a custom oil pan was built by defined instead of using a dry sump. The placement of the engine did not have to move due to subframe modification. Everything was built by defined. The car was at Gordon's meet two years ago. I love the weight advantage I get with the rotary. There is no nissan engine you can run to make the weight distribution 49 front 51 rear with a full tank of gas. In my opinion the s14 with a rotary is the ultimate rear wheel drive set-up. The car weighs in at 2500lbs with the cage. The s14 has a weight advantage over the FD. The gas tank is also in front of the rear axle, where the FD was as far back on the car as possible.

Engine bay

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3154.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3148.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3143.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3140.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/IMG_3134.jpg

Thanks for looking. I plan to update the thread with more dyno results along with event photos.



Update on page 6, no more bling wheels. Now the real build thread starts.

http://www.nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=2298&page=6

[Def]

Cool car, but what about your FD was not "track ready." Looks pretty track ready to me.

And is there some reason the A-pillar bars are so inboard on the car? I haven't done front tubes on an S chassis before, just curious if there's something I'm not thinking about in the way.


Welcome to NRR though, enjoy your stay.

[Bubba]

Uhhh, 13b in a 240? Definitely a new one for me.
Welcome aboard.

[hai1206vn]

Excellent looking swap! Welcome

In my opinion the s14 with a rotary is the ultimate rear wheel drive set-up. The car weighs in at 2500lbs with the cage. The s14 has a weight advantage over the FD. The gas tank is also in front of the rear axle, where the FD was as far back on the car as possible.
Some important things like the amazing suspension & steering on the FD can't be had though.

[EfiniRX7]

Cool car, but what about your FD was not "track ready." Looks pretty track ready to me.

And is there some reason the A-pillar bars are so inboard on the car? I haven't done front tubes on an S chassis before, just curious if there's something I'm not thinking about in the way.


Welcome to NRR though, enjoy your stay.

According to the scca rules you can only have 2 bends in the a pillar bar. There is a bend to go to the floor and a bend to attach to the rear hoop. You are limited by the amount of bends you are aloud to have.

[EfiniRX7]

Excellent looking swap! Welcome


Some important things like the amazing suspension & steering on the FD can't be had though.

To be honest Im not so sure there is a huge difference in performance. The steering on the FD I felt was always just average, nothing special like an evo or M3. The front suspension is what it is. The s14 to me feels way more capable than my FD did. My s14 is far more stable around corners, and laying down the power. My FD had 100 less hp but was just more uncontrollable due to it's shorter wheel base, and gas tank placement. If you put a fuel cell in an FD you really can't move it much if you have a cage like mine had. I have had way more seat time in my FD, and my s14 is just better. I have auto-crossed other s14's of mine, and they could not compare to my FD. I just don't think the macpherson strut is a real disadvantage, just a different system. My M3 was macpherson, and m3's are one of the best chassis in the world in my opinion.

Im in no way trying cut down on my FD, it was my dream car since middle school. If you want to get technical the oem based FD is better than the oem based s14. I had to build a hybrid to make one come out on top. My FD also had all delrin bushings with new rod ends. I had 255's on my FD and free worn out michelin cup slicks on the s14. The difference was not in the suspension, and the FD has always had a tire advantage.

[turtl631]

Interesting swap...doesn't seem to make too much sense building it up from scratch, but it sounds like you came out ahead on the trade.

[V1A]

Do you have corner weights for this thing?

[EfiniRX7]

I can get the corner weights. It has been weighed and corner weighed. We tried to get the cross split as close as possible. We just never took any pics of the scale display. The rotary is no harder than swapping in an rb. You make custom mounts and a custom driveshaft. Its nice with a rotary as well because they don't vibrate like a piston engine. My engine is hard mounted to the sub frame, meaning Im not using any delrin or polyurethane bushings in the mounts. Really any other swap can't achieve the same engine placement without cutting the fire wall. Any other engine weighs more than a rotary as well.

[Def]

How much does a 13B + trans weigh?

[EfiniRX7]

How much does a 13B + trans weigh?

My 13b with trans weighs in at 370lbs in running order. The entire 370lbs sits behind the shock tower and sits on the subframe. I believe the sr weighs 450lbs, along with being longer and taller.

[V1A]

The entire 370lbs sits behind the shock tower and sits on the subframe.

That's why I'm really interested to know the corner weights. Did you ever find them?

EDIT: Nevermind. I was just really interested in the total weight and f/r split which you already posted.

[EfiniRX7]

I have not been able to get the car down to the shop to put it back on scales. Im going to be installing a meth injection system this week, so I will do it then.

[Tower240sx]

Most people just smoke the meth, Does injecting it give a better hi?

[crunkride]

What a car. First post and glad to meet you guys.

[EfiniRX7]

Most people just smoke the meth, Does injecting it give a better hi?

You inject the meth and it makes the experience like when paul walker hits the nos in F&F.

Mooooonnnniiiiiccccccaaaaaa.

[EfiniRX7]

Found a cage pics in my collection. This was during the build process, Im going to be adding gussets from the main hoop to the b-pillar, and from the roof bars to the a-pillar. We built boxes on the floor that make the chassis a structural part of the cage, and making sure the cage does not punch through the floor in a crash.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/LoganFDMikeFDCustomerCarsprogressFamily162.jpg

[Rustspecs13]

Nice drift car bro. Good thing you have that hydro E to lock up those slicks.

~Alex

[EfiniRX7]

Nice drift car bro. Good thing you have that hydro E to lock up those slicks.

~Alex

Wow alex your comments are always so relevant to the threads.

[WorkInProgressK]

Any issues with running a 13b? I always hear about the Apex seal is the main thing that fails on those engines.

[2Fass240us]

Wow alex your comments are always so relevant to the threads.The "bro" never helps.

[EfiniRX7]

Any issues with running a 13b? I always hear about the Apex seal is the main thing that fails on those engines.

The apex seals will fail like a piston under heavy detonation. This car has been running for three years, and the Fd I got rid of for it has the same story. When the engines are built right, and tuned right they last for a very long time. A big problem is most people don't use cell by cell tuning. Many people just tune the full throttle, and partial throttle. The biggest enemy to a rotary is running lean, an n/a rotary does not care like a boosted one does. I have never had a rotary blow up on me yet. Another big problem is that people don't properly clearance there engines, leading to low compression from the start. Any rotary car I have ever owned has been nothing but reliable.

[WorkInProgressK]

Ok. So the same concepts that apply to cylinders apply to rotarys. thx!

[EfiniRX7]

Ok. So the same concepts that apply to cylinders apply to rotarys. thx!

Yep, except you mix 2 stroke oil with the gas. I also like them because there way cheap to rebuild.

[WorkInProgressK]

Wait? isnt adding oil going to higher your risk of pre-ignition? I guess your tunned for that anyway.

How much must you had? 100/1?

[EfiniRX7]

Wait? isnt adding oil going to higher your risk of pre-ignition? I guess your tunned for that anyway.

How much must you had? 100/1?

No, the rotary is designed to burn oil. The oil is what lubricates the apex seals, those are equivalent to piston rings. The factory also uses what's called an oil metering pump, which pumps oil into the housings. I eliminate the omp so my oil pan oil stays in the pan, and I just pre-mix my gas. I put 1oz to 1 gallon, the perfect mix. I also use amsoil hp-injector 2 cycle mix, which does not smoke. The 2 stroke oil is also harder to burn in combustion, so it nicely coats the housings for lubrication. The rotary is basically like a big 2 stroke, even down to the two rotations of the e-shaft(crank) for one power stroke. A 1.3l rotary (typical 13b) in size is equivalent to a 2.6l.

[Def]

Yea, most serious rotary guys I see at the track are running premix. Looks like a huge PITA to run pump gas over just pulling up to the pump and filling up.

[EfiniRX7]

Yea, most serious rotary guys I see at the track are running premix. Looks like a huge PITA to run pump gas over just pulling up to the pump and filling up.

At first you would think so, but I got used to it. The more mild rx7 guys just use the oil metering pump. It is interesting when people try to tell you what's best for your car at the pump, especially when you tell them your adding oil.

[Matt93SE]

And you wonder why they all smell like weed whackers.. ;)
.......... I saw a beautiful condition stock FD drive by while I was at the parts store today. Still one of my favorite cars of all time.

[Def]

Yep, I drool over them all the time at the track. Then not so much when they're sitting out the day because of "engine troubles." :D

[Black R]

If weight is such a concern, why go with an s14 over an s13 coupe?

[EfiniRX7]

If weight is such a concern, why go with an s14 over an s13 coupe?

It's all ready to light. I have to drop the power to 390-400 to fit into nasa st1, it's a power to weight class with some other rules. If this car ever becomes a time attack car, it will basically not even be an s14 any more. I will tube chassis the front end, and the rear end. I can't wait until spring, just a few more months. I had a blast driving this car in the few events I got to since I got it so late into the season.


P.S. And soon to add pics of the new wheels. Im just lucky wheels I originally bought for a wide body FD even began to fit and be drivable, or I would have not been able to drive it until this spring.

[Rustspecs13]

The "bro" never helps.

I know matt pretty well, it was a joke. It was in fact built to drift, and it does everything pretty well.

Nice to see you on NRR matt.

I can't wait to see it out on track, it'll be nice to see that car being pushed to its limits regularly.

Its weird though, you build a rotary right, don't over heat it (and simplify some of the factory stuff) and they are reliable. Strange isn't it?

~Alex

[2Fass240us]

I know matt pretty well, it was a joke.np, Brojangles

[EfiniRX7]

I know matt pretty well, it was a joke. It was in fact built to drift, and it does everything pretty well.

Nice to see you on NRR matt.

I can't wait to see it out on track, it'll be nice to see that car being pushed to its limits regularly.

Its weird though, you build a rotary right, don't over heat it (and simplify some of the factory stuff) and they are reliable. Strange isn't it?

~Alex

Yep. I have not crossed over into the world of wanting to stab my face off due to constant rotary failure. The first step in un-drift "modding" this car was to switch out the stupid angle mod knuckles. When the car was at full lock you could stuff a small animal in between the inside of the tire and fender, then people wonder why they destroy tie rods.

[Matt93SE]

.. not to mention how bad those things magnify bump steer... eeek.

[EfiniRX7]

Here is a pic from HIN a while ago. This is when my friend Peter still owned it, and when it had proper fitting wheels lol. I like this pic so it had to be posted. I like to think I saved the car from a life of aimlessly sliding side ways, but that all opinion.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/DSC_0922.jpg

I own this set of wheels too. The current wheel problem is being addressed as I type. Hoping to trade my fronts for 9.5's and run a 285/30/18 out back, and a 255/35/18 up front on new found 9.5's. Now all I have to do is find those 9.5's, some one needs my 2 10.5's I know it.

[EfiniRX7]

Here is a couple more from the same event posted above.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/peterbilt6.jpg

Meh, drifting but o well. I look at it like I saved the car from a life of aimlessly sliding around, lol. Can't wait to post pics from the coming season, I plan on documenting my progress.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/peterbilt5.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/peterbilt2-1.jpg

[Def]

Car looks good. Needs some mean aero though (and that doesn't mean ricey body kits like it somehow means on other S chassis forums).

[EfiniRX7]

Car looks good. Needs some mean aero though (and that doesn't mean ricey body kits like it somehow means on other S chassis forums).

Yep, I agree. Im working on that this winter/ spring. I want to make an entire flat bottom under panel soon. Im also going to make a splitter, along with brake ducts. I would also like to get an apr gt-wing. This car could really use some down force.

[PerilousActs]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/DSC_0922.jpg
I spy kyle kreb's 1uzfe corolla.

My car was in that event so I was there for like 12 hours that day. I have some pics of Peter driving it around somewhere. If I find them I'll post them up for ya. As with any other rotary, this thing is a flame thrower :)

[EfiniRX7]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/DSC_0922.jpg
I spy kyle kreb's 1uzfe corolla.

My car was in that event so I was there for like 12 hours that day. I have some pics of Peter driving it around somewhere. If I find them I'll post them up for ya. As with any other rotary, this thing is a flame thrower :)

I was afraid to catch my bumper on fire at a couple events in the fall after I got it. I have some melted plastic that dripped onto my exhaust tip, lol. Peter drove like a beast that day for being 3 years rusty. I guess it's kind of like riding a bike.

[Rustspecs13]

Did kyle have the 1uz in it back then? I drove it a while back with the supercharged 4AG in it. He likes his no power steering but the steering wheel kick back is crazy.

Matt- what are you going to do about melting bumpers? Rivet a piece of metal above the exhaust?

[EfiniRX7]

Did kyle have the 1uz in it back then? I drove it a while back with the supercharged 4AG in it. He likes his no power steering but the steering wheel kick back is crazy.

Matt- what are you going to do about melting bumpers? Rivet a piece of metal above the exhaust?

Probably, that would be the easiest thing to do.

[EfiniRX7]

Here are some pics from today with a different set of wheels. I just pulled it out of winter storage, and it is Dirty.

A couple rear suspension shots, really just so I can access these pics easy. The tie rods are kazama, along with the traction rod's. The toe rods are tanabe.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/DSC01541.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/DSC01540.jpg

The pics are kind of crappy, sorry about that. The tires are throw away's for me. I will be getting some bf goodrich r1 probably, or possibly r888 for this year.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/DSC01543.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/DSC01544.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/DSC01547.jpg

[Def]

Definitely needs some Z32 rear uprights. Drop the fat steel uprights!

[EfiniRX7]

Definitely needs some Z32 rear uprights. Drop the fat steel uprights!

Might look into that. Im really trying to leave the car alone long enough to race it, haha. I have a problem with going over board and keeping the car down for long period's of time.

[Def]

Might look into that. Im really trying to leave the car alone long enough to race it, haha. I have a problem with going over board and keeping the car down for long period's of time.

I know that all too well...


Might be a good time to upgrade dampers at the same time depending on what you're running now.

Spherical bearings are also really nice in the rear of these cars. :D

[EfiniRX7]

The dampers are the best you can buy really unless you spend 6k. My coilovers are 3k. The Racing Gear coilovers are built by Showa for race use and use Swift springs. The top hat uses an Aurora bearing it's so stout. I don't think I will ever get rid of the RG's, probably send them out to have external reservoirs installed.

I actually have shock dyno charts comparing the RG's to ohlins and other big names, and the RG is so much better. They are 5 way adjustable. Here is a link to one of the only place you can buy them state side. These coilovers are rare by japan standards.


http://www.tougedistribution.com/item--Racing-Gear-JTC-N1-Damper-VII-Stage--ZZ001P/

[Rustspecs13]

Yeah the coils aren't your typical ones. LOL. I wonder how much fun finding Z32 rear perches for them would be, unless a JDM coil would work. RG's are pretty rare.

Matt- It looks good. I still liked it with the RPF01's better tough. 17's I mean.

~Alex

[EfiniRX7]

MMMMMMmmmmmm, new wheel tire set-up. They are continental 275 full slicks all the way around, nothing like fresh new race rubber. Going to mid-ohio thursday for my license class, and a shake down on the car.

Sorry, just a crappy cell pic for now.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/securedownload.jpg

[Somnambulist]

Aw what happened to the FN01RCs? :(

Looks good anyways. Good luck on your racing.

[EfiniRX7]

Aw what happened to the FN01RCs? :(

Looks good anyways. Good luck on your racing.

I was not really liking the look of them.


Mid Ohio was so bad ass. The car was perfect. I got quality seat time with out having to deal with a non-working car. The continental slicks seem to have infinite grip that never runs out. I will be back there next month back to back. I will try to get some pics and stuff, hopefully videos also. The grip levels on this set-up are intoxicating.

[Def]

Where'd you pick up the Continental slicks? Curious how much a tire like that sets ya back money wise...

[240sxTTC]

I was not really liking the look of them.


Mid Ohio was so bad ass. The car was perfect. I got quality seat time with out having to deal with a non-working car. The continental slicks seem to have infinite grip that never runs out. I will be back there next month back to back. I will try to get some pics and stuff, hopefully videos also. The grip levels on this set-up are intoxicating.

Did you get any lap times?

[EfiniRX7]

No I don't have a timer in my car. Im trying to save up for one.

[Light]

I'm also curious where you got the continental slicks. And curious how they stack up against the michelins.

[PerilousActs]

I've seen them on ebay relatively cheap.

[EfiniRX7]

I bought the tires new. I got them from a guy who makes his business from selling slicks in north carolina, can't remember the name of the business right now. I have had some of the used ones. Some times you get a decent set of tires, some times you get ones that were taken off for a reason.

[240sxTTC]

The Continental tire is the same as Hoosier R6's but a slightly harder compound for durability. If you like the Continental tire don't even try the A6.....it's like crack. At least 3 secs faster at Mid-OH. I've had a few sets of the then Grand-Am Hoosiers, which are now branded Continental.

[240sxTTC]

No I don't have a timer in my car. Im trying to save up for one.

I have an Ultra-Lap. I like it. It's popular so someone always brings a beacon, which is nice cause I didn't buy one.

[eye-5]

The Continental tire is the same as Hoosier R6's but a slightly harder compound for durability. If you like the Continental tire don't even try the A6.....it's like crack. At least 3 secs faster at Mid-OH. I've had a few sets of the then Grand-Am Hoosiers, which are now branded Continental.

Can't even imagine how quickly you can go through A6s on a road course. For autocross they start to get slower after every run you take on them.

[Def]

The Continental tire is the same as Hoosier R6's but a slightly harder compound for durability. If you like the Continental tire don't even try the A6.....it's like crack. At least 3 secs faster at Mid-OH. I've had a few sets of the then Grand-Am Hoosiers, which are now branded Continental.

Gotcha, thought they might be the same ones that Hoosier is clearing out right now.

[EfiniRX7]

Nice I will have to keep that in mind. I really love the length of time the tire stays warm versus getting way to hot. I was lapping for 20min at a time stopping to get gas and the tires stayed in fairly good standings heat wise. I was impressed for sure. I will be back at mid-ohio this month two days in a row. I hope to have some pics and possibly videos. I really want a lap timer.

I also can't believe how satisfied I was with the car. I have not been happy with my race car for the past 4 years. I have finally got it to the point where I just want to drive it.

[240sxTTC]

Can't even imagine how quickly you can go through A6s on a road course. For autocross they start to get slower after every run you take on them.

It's all about heat cycles unfortunately in autocross a heat cycle last on 45 seconds. Road racing the A6's are fast for about 6-8 heat cycles then they start falling off. The first heat cycle is theoretically the fastest. I usually go through a set a weekend. After which I make them my practice tires. I try to win some to offset the cost.

[240sxTTC]

Nice I will have to keep that in mind. I really love the length of time the tire stays warm versus getting way to hot. I was lapping for 20min at a time stopping to get gas and the tires stayed in fairly good standings heat wise. I was impressed for sure. I will be back at mid-ohio this month two days in a row. I hope to have some pics and possibly videos. I really want a lap timer.

I also can't believe how satisfied I was with the car. I have not been happy with my race car for the past 4 years. I have finally got it to the point where I just want to drive it.

Are you going to be there the 13th and 14th? I'll be there that weekend so if you are stop by. I'll be paddocked up in the top grass area with a blue Miata and grey MazdaSpeed Protege.

[EfiniRX7]

New pics.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/s145.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/s143.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/s142-3.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/s141.jpg

[Jason M]

Reading about your car makes me day dream about buying a 4 rotor & racing my car in XP...

[Chrisw]

Man I love this car! It's a lot like mine on the outside, and soooo much nicer inside. Makes me want to work at mine like crazy!!

If you would have told me you were painting those rims black, I would have thrown a fit... Then I saw them. They look really good! Although if I am seeing correctly, you now have 18's. I think that's a bit aggressive and have 17's for my Enkei's. Looks like the old Enkei's were 17's as well...

[EfiniRX7]

Man I love this car! It's a lot like mine on the outside, and soooo much nicer inside. Makes me want to work at mine like crazy!!

If you would have told me you were painting those rims black, I would have thrown a fit... Then I saw them. They look really good! Although if I am seeing correctly, you now have 18's. I think that's a bit aggressive and have 17's for my Enkei's. Looks like the old Enkei's were 17's as well...

I actually bought the wheels from enkei black. The 18's offer a much larger tire selection for slicks. The 18's seem to fit perfect. I love the ground clearance I get while not having monster truck wheel gaps. The 10.5's all the way around I had last year were way to much. Im running 10.5's in the back and 9.5's in the front, perfect set-up if you ask me.

[Chrisw]

Cool, I guess i've never really tried 18's on the track...

[EfiniRX7]

Cool, I guess i've never really tried 18's on the track...

Im not going to lie to you, I chose them due to tire availability. Seems like they work well though.



I want to get a go-pro before next week. I will be back at mid-ohio next wednesday and thursday. I will at least have pics from the track hopefully.

[alex7]

Im not going to lie to you, I chose them due to tire availability. Seems like they work well though.



I want to get a go-pro before next week. I will be back at mid-ohio next wednesday and thursday. I will at least have pics from the track hopefully.

Are you running spacers in the front at all ?

[S130]

Nice seeing this car at the Street Life tour today. Definitly the best prepared S14's there.

[PerilousActs]

Yeah, car was definitely looking good.

[EfiniRX7]

No spacers to the above post. ^^^

I did get to go back to mid ohio and finish up the school, and licensing. The car did a flawless job on both days. I did a calculation on how many on track miles the car did. Over the 2 days I was there she clocked 800 miles without a problem at all, and went through 80 gallons of gas :eek: .

Once again I failed in the picture department. Im hoping some pics from street life tour surface, I still think it looked better after it rolled off mid ohio than after the polish job before SLT. I just never think of carrying a camera when I go to these things.

[EfiniRX7]

I will just put this here. I will make a separate build thread for this when it's far closer to being done. This is just the beginning and is in no way a finished product. I guess now it's time to run STR1.


http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/EfiniRX7/photo-21-1.jpg

[josh18_2k]

all that and you're keeping struts? O_o

[EfiniRX7]

Ya, I don't want to try and be smarter than Nissan in to many ways. Im not really trying to reinvent the wheel here. The suspension Nissan designed is not a horrible weak link. I was not going to try and figure out how to keep camber adjustment and all the other intricate things that go into designing suspension geometry just to end up with a worse than before result.

The biggest problem that I discovered is the paper thin everything on the s14. It seems the s14 is about as flimsy as it gets. I will be posting many pics. The sub frame is being changed and the tension rod is being eliminated in favor of a lower a-arm, utilizing cam bolts for caster adjustment. The biggest advantage is weight and rigidity, along with ease of working on the car. I was surprised at the single layer thin flimsy frame rails, even going into the bulk head the car has a single layer flimsy box structure. If you look at an FD it utilizes a 4 layer thick frame rail all the way back to the bulk head. The FD has a 10,000 newtons per inch in the torsional rigidity department. The s14 is on the opposite end of the spectrum, a piece of paper.

With all that I still love my car, and s-chassis. After feeling what the car was capable of this past summer, I can't wait to feel the new set up. My main goal is precision in the chassis. Nothing feels better than a car that has seemingly infinite grip, and turns like lightning.

[EfiniRX7]

Updates

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