Update

[veilside180sx]

There was an issue with the last batch of flanges (they accidently cut Sentra flanges). The correct ones shipped out on Friday though, so I should be able to knock them out pretty quick from that point on.

[veilside180sx]

Issues are over with, I received the flanges today. So I'll be a busy welder this weekend.=D

[veilside180sx]

Those that were ready to order a set...can you PM since I forgot to transfer those from the old site. They should be done by next weekend. (since that's about the soonest I can get the back from the powdercoater)

[veilside180sx]

I have 3 sets done so far, and the others will be done very soon. I hope to have them to the powdercoater by the weekend so he can do his thing.

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1662.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1663.JPG

[veilside180sx]

i want to make sure I'm not missing anyone on my list of orders to make sure I order enough inserts. If I need to update it let me know.

Jacob 8611-1257 (2) S13 def paid delivered
PJ 8611-1258 (2) S14 Rear aceinhole paid shipped 1/2
Brian 8611-1257 (2) S13 your_mom paid delivered
Ross 8611-1257 (2) S14 turtl delivered
Carl 8611-1257 (2)
Monty 8611-1257 (2) S13 mccoy paid rears shipped
Jesse 8610-1436 (4) S14 underdog paid (working on rears this weekend)
Gary 8611-1259 (2) S13 vw_nissan paid shipped
Andrew 8610-1436 (2)spool sample 8611-1257 (2) S14 paid front delivered
Will housings S14 (2F) paid fronts delivered
Edwin S13F paid shipped

[a_ahmed]

when summer comes ill definitely want this... I hope the prices stay the same or get lower heh... ill want 8611s front and rear... don't stop making :) I just drove my 240 today uninsured lol... no snow/salt on road... God what a feeling...........! I missed my car... can't wait until feb-march... there shouldn't be any snow anymore then God willing... made me remember today why I love 240s :D lucky you guys who don't have snowy weather down south :)

[veilside180sx]

I don't intend to stop making them for awhile, so you should be pretty safe.=) There isn't any snow really on the left coast either, but there is a lot of that wet stuff.

[turtl631]

It has already snowed like 10 times here in Chicago. Aren't you in Canada?! I can't count on the snow being gone until April...February is gonna suck. It's cool to see so many people getting in on this and trying to properly set up 240s. I would have never seen this coming a year or two ago.

[a_ahmed]

Well last year what happened was it only snowed in january and february crazy then march was an on and off thing just in beginning mostly snow but it did snow once or twice even beginning of april it was anoying!

This year it began snowing december, january too, but suddenly now it SEEMS to be going away, so i hope its going to be an early spring as it was an early winter?... I don't know i JUST hope so.

It all melted away in the last week it was frickin awesome, now its mostly raining lightly which is fine washing away all the dirt left overs.. I REALLY hope we dont get no more snow gah i hate it!... I wana switch insurance from my winter car to the 240...

[veilside180sx]

Carl and Gary, I can't remember which model you guys are running...can you PM me or add it here

[veilside180sx]

I had to remake my S14 jig today, so I'll try and get those done asap. I'm hoping to get most of them done before work in the morning.

I apologize for this taking longer than it should have.

[WilloW]

I would rather wait and have you make it right, so no pressure from me.

[veilside180sx]

I'm still hoping to have them to the powdercoater by this weekend. I'm hoping he has a long weekend like I do with MLK on monday.

[veilside180sx]

Made quite a bit of progress this morning before work. S13's on top and S14's on bottom. I'll wrap them up tonight so I can swing them over to the powdercoater tomorrow if all goes well.

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1666.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1667.JPG

[veilside180sx]

Well got home from work and got on it. All the S14 fronts are done now (well 4 pairs anyway)

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1668.JPG

[veilside180sx]

I just got off the phone with the powdercoater and he said they'll be done on Saturday=)

[veilside180sx]

Before I can order the rear bearings to weld on I need to double check the dimensions of the stud in the stock upright. If someone has some laying around and a digital caliper it'd be great to know the size, so I don't have to track someone down to measure their car.

[Def]

if it can wait until Sunday I will have the Nissan in garage queen mode up on stands, so I can pull off a rear shock and measure.

[veilside180sx]

Plan on doing that, and if I find something sooner I'll let you know

[Def]

Plan on doing that, and if I find something sooner I'll let you know

I got totally drunk and picked up a girl last night, and didn't really have anything to install on the Nissan anyway, so yea... that didn't happen. Sorry!

[a_ahmed]

^rotflmao wth...

[turtl631]

Nice work Def.

[veilside180sx]

Fresh from the powdercoater. I only unwrapped these, but all the fronts are finished.

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1720.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1721.JPG

[Def]

Was she fat? :D

Definitely not! :D My regular EVO ass was tossing her around just fine... She definitely wouldn't even take up half your EVO 3!!! :eek:

[Def]

Was she 12?

hahahaha

She was actually older than me. She even told me she was going to purposefully screw up Richard's data gathering efforts. Then she gave me a back massage... you know... and it led to no measurements for Richard. Fair trade in my book!

[veilside180sx]

lol...you kids:P

I guess if you want something done you have to do it yourself...:D

[2Fass240us]

lol...you kids:P

I guess if you want someone done you have to drug them yourself...:D
Corrected to explain Def's exploits the other night.

I am always impressed by your pictures, and look forward to this setup one day.

[veilside180sx]

I ordered all the inserts today.

10 8611-1257, 6 8610-1436, 2 8611-1259, and 14 gland nuts. (Yes...I too just realized i shorted myself two gland nuts for the inserts ordered...lol)

[Def]

Dibs on actually getting gland nuts!!!


hahaha - that's so sloppy you'd think 2Fass240us was doing the ordering! :D

Just messing with ya Richard... You're so badass you're like an honorary Pope, complete with a mini-Popemobile dome on your Sentra.

[veilside180sx]

Your cracking me up man:D

[AceInHole]

Dibs on getting these on the car before making the 20hr trek to GA!

[Def]

Your cracking me up man:D

I also could be off on my maths, but I think you're short 4 nuts instead of 2.

[veilside180sx]

I also could be off on my maths, but I think you're short 4 nuts instead of 2.


You weren't supposed to catch that.:eek:

[spool_sample]

I also could be off on my maths, but I think you're short 4 nuts instead of 2.

LOL.

I noticed this, too, but I didn't post anything because I figured he might have 2 extra laying around. :p

[a_ahmed]

i hope im not getting any nasty message across these posts lol... im kinda slow.. eew lol

[veilside180sx]

Well when i was originally ordering, it was only for 10 inserts. I had the intention of keeping the spares in stock...which obviously the order of inserts changed...and i forgot to add the gland nuts. I'll order more on Monday.

[veilside180sx]

i'm eagerly waiting presents from the brown truck.=)

[McCoy]

i'm eagerly waiting presents from the brown truck.=)
as are we all... as are we all :)

[veilside180sx]

Still.....no brown truck...no fun

[veilside180sx]

FWIW all of the 8611 were $259/ea rather than the $240/ea I quoted everyone. (I haven't decided what to do about it)

[Def]

Dear Richard,

I can arrange for you to have access to a basic calculator for a nominal fee. I think it might help with some recent problems.

Sincerely,
Jacob










hahaha - just messing man, I don't expect anybody else to fund my mod habit, so let me know what the final total is and I'll make up the difference to you.

[veilside180sx]

Well...my math would certainly get better if the suppliers were giving me appropriate numbers to work with.=)

[spool_sample]

FWIW all of the 8611 were $259/ea rather than the $240/ea I quoted everyone. (I haven't decided what to do about it)

Doh!

Oh well, it's still worth it, IMO.

[veilside180sx]

I received presents from the brown truck today. :D

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1755.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1758.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1760.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1761.JPG

[spool_sample]

I received presents from the brown truck today. :D

:D:D:D:D:D

[vw_nissan]

Yum.......what are the bags of sleeves/washers for?

[veilside180sx]

The bag of bushings are to adapt the Koni to a myriad of different camber plates.=) I just ordered all of the typical sizes to save the hassle down the road, and down time.

[veilside180sx]

Everyone send me a PM with which camber plates you plan on using and I'll throw the bushings in the box with them.=)

[Lusion]

There lookin good. Been lurking around for awhile now, I think I might get me a custom set for a different application =)

[veilside180sx]

Just so no one else was feeling left out=)

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1764.JPG

[spool_sample]

More pics of rears! Like the ones that are supposed to fit stock spindles. :D

[2Fass240us]

More pics of rears!
Pervert.

[veilside180sx]

Has anyone had time to measure the rear spindle studs yet?

[Def]

I'm swamped with school, and backed up on other car projects, so I won't be able to help you with the rear spindle size for a long time... bleh

[veilside180sx]

I'm swamped with school, and backed up on other car projects, so I won't be able to help you with the rear spindle size for a long time... bleh

Well...you were a little "busy" the last time as well...lol

I'll try and get over to someone's house locally and measure their's.

[spool_sample]

Has anyone had time to measure the rear spindle studs yet?

If I can get around to it this weekend, I'll take a look, but since I just turned 21 today, I might end up pulling a Def. :p

[Def]

If I can get around to it this weekend, I'll take a look, but since I just turned 21 today, I might end up pulling a Def. :p

DO IT!!!

Using your own spindle is way more fun than measuring an S13 spindle for some Sentra driver!!! :D

[veilside180sx]

Here's a rear S13 Z32 setup

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1783.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1784.JPG

[McCoy]

Those will look nice on a white S13 coupe :)

[Your Mom]

or a silver moss one

[2Fass240us]

I'll give you $7 for em.

[veilside180sx]

I'll give you $7 for em.

ROFL:p

[spool_sample]

Eye candy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/fullboost14/IMG_01301.jpg

:D

[a_ahmed]

OOOOOOOOOH!!! OOOOOOOOH!

lol... omg I can't wait to get mine in summer :(...... I need to make more fricking bliiing... im getting s15 subframe right now.. yay finally... but those look oh so sexy :( sniff

[ckcadavona]

Before I can order the rear bearings to weld on I need to double check the dimensions of the stud in the stock upright. If someone has some laying around and a digital caliper it'd be great to know the size, so I don't have to track someone down to measure their car.

What measurements do you need? Length, diameter, thread pitch? Will the mearsurement of the ID of the stock rear shock work? Do I need a caliper? I assume the s13 doesnt get the 8611 option with the stock upright, correct?

[veilside180sx]

What measurements do you need? Length, diameter, thread pitch? Will the mearsurement of the ID of the stock rear shock work? Do I need a caliper? I assume the s13 doesnt get the 8611 option with the stock upright, correct?

I could space the bearing down a 1/2" or something to allow room for the compression adjuster on an S13, but the downside is that you would have to remove the insert from the housing to adjust it.

I have a set of Silk Roads in the garage to measure the opening in them, but I prefer to take the measurement directly off the stud. I'll have it measured on someone's car this weekend, if it's not done by then.

[veilside180sx]

Just a teaser

Monty's rears and vw_nissan's fronts

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1828.JPG

Bottom of vw_nissan's fronts

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1826.JPG

vw_nissan's 8611-1259 S13 setup

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1825.JPG

[vw_nissan]

Sweet....can't wait for those.

[McCoy]

Such a tease...

[a_ahmed]

wow thats hot

[Def]

What's the reasoning between using the longer 1259 insert vs. the 1257?

[veilside180sx]

What's the reasoning between using the longer 1259 insert vs. the 1257?

I had ordered them, and it was easier to make use of them rather than ship them back.=)

[AceInHole]

WTB S14 rear shocks! :P

[veilside180sx]

I need to get over to the steel supplier to get the steel for it, so I can get to work on yours.

WTB S14 rear shocks! :P

[vw_nissan]

Can we get a side by side comparison of the 1259 / 1257 housings? Just want to see how big of a difference there is.

In fact, wouldn't running the longest shock you can increase suspension travel at a given height?

[veilside180sx]

Can we get a side by side comparison of the 1259 / 1257 housings? Just want to see how big of a difference there is.

In fact, wouldn't running the longest shock you can increase suspension travel at a given height?

As soon as I get them back this weekend I'll snap some side by side pics. It won't add suspension travel because the height is the same from the spring to the hub flange. The longer strut adds 1/2" of shaft travel is all, but that doesn't necessarily equate to more travel. You would have to run a longer spring and move the hub flange up further as well.

[vw_nissan]

oops, you are right....didn't think about the spring and flange part. :o

[Def]

You could toss on some 200 lb/in 10" or 12" long springs and go rallying though! YEEEHAAWWWW for some jumps in your S chassis!!!!

[veilside180sx]

This is as far as I got tonight. My welder ran out gas, so I have to try and get a new one in the morning.

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1856.JPG

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG1855.JPG

[a_ahmed]

Did I ever tell you how sexy your metal hard dampers are ;)

[Epstein]

wooo can't wait!

[veilside180sx]

I wrapped up welding on the bottoms on them. (got more gas this morning) All I have left is the sleeve perches and they are off to the powdercoater.

[McCoy]

Richards got gas :)

[vw_nissan]

Does using race gas help speed up the welding process? :p

[SoSideways]

Question: Are all these housings going to be blue, or can we pick a different color?

[veilside180sx]

They'll all be blue. My preference is to keep them the same color as it is part of the "branding"

[SoSideways]

They'll all be blue. My preference is to keep them the same color as it is part of the "branding"

That's what I thought.

No worries, was just trying to be metrosexual and match the purple HKS camber plates to some custom powdercoated purple Veilside180sx housings, that's all :)

No worries though, I don't really care that much hahaha

[spool_sample]

Any pics of the rears for the stock spindles? *cough*

:p

[veilside180sx]

Any pics of the rears for the stock spindles? *cough*

:p

Monty just shipped me his stock spindle yesterday, so I'm trying to work out finding a 20mm heim that will work for what were doing.

[veilside180sx]

I just finished up the ones that were pictured last. They will be off to the powdercoater tomorrow. Sorry it's been very hectic the last week.

[veilside180sx]

Due to a few requests about colors, I decided to just have them all powdercoated black from now on.

I just dropped off 6 pairs at the powdercoater.=)

2 8610 S14/Z32 rears (Jesse) Black
2 8611 S14/Z32 rears (PJ) Blue to match
2 8611 S13/Z32 rears (Chris) Black
2 8611 S13 front (Chris) Black
2 8611 S14 front (Jesse) Black
2 8611 S14 front (Jason) Black

and I have one pair of 8611 S14 fronts with the Teal/Blue color that are available.

I'm currently waiting on another batch of Z32 rear brackets to come in, which should be here pretty soon.

[Epstein]

oooh Black! That should look nice. Looks like PJ is getting some 8611 rears too!

[turtl631]

Will my rears be black too? I wouldn't mind blue to match the fronts...but only if it won't cost either of us any more.

[spool_sample]

I wouldn't mind blue to match the fronts...but only if it won't cost either of us any more.

I'm wondering the same...

[Def]

Any housing trade in program so I can get some black one for the front? I gotta color coordinate for show car points! :D

[veilside180sx]

Anyone who already has blue, will get blue to match what they have.=) Only the new ones will be black, going to those that don't have them.

[Epstein]

hahaha you opened up a can of worms

[veilside180sx]

hahaha you opened up a can of worms

I sure did...lol

[veilside180sx]

The next batch of Z32 rear brackets will be here middle of next week assuming it arrives on schedule. I ordered twice as many this time, so should be enough to get through for a little while.

[Epstein]

So how is my set doing?

[Def]

Richard told me he powdercoated them custom "Florida pink" for you. Should definitely make them a collectors item. I bet you can auction them off to someone on Zilvia for some BANK son!

[veilside180sx]

So how is my set doing?

I'm picking them up in a few minutes.=) We had conflicting schedules yesterday so I wasn't able to get them.

[veilside180sx]

Here's the black hotness, with PJ's blue rears. The black came out really nice.=)

From the left 8610/S14/Z32 rear (wow quite a title), S14 front, 8611/S14/Z32 rear, S13/Z32 rear, S13 front

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/2362332827_9b6ae412b1.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2362332833_7ed73a70f6.jpg?v=0

[spool_sample]

Looks awesome!

[WilloW]

I wish mine was black.

[Epstein]

Wow! Looks great! Thanks for the pics Richard.

[AceInHole]

I wish mine was black.

That could be misconstrued quickly and easily :P

[WishIHadaSilvia]

So I guess the 8611s are a longer strut then the 8610s? I guess technically then the rear housings could be made even shorter then to not have to droop the spring at all?

Also are those black fronts the newly designed ones? Do you have a picture comparing them to the old design?

No regular S14 rears yet?

I'm just full of questions.

[WilloW]

That could be misconstrued quickly and easily :P
Hahah, you know what I meant :D.

[McCoy]

So I guess the 8611s are a longer strut then the 8610s?
No, but the 8611's do come in different length's.

Also are those black fronts the newly designed ones? Do you have a picture comparing them to the old design?
these are the housing that allow for more camber. Look at the bolt holes in the flanges that mount to the spindle. The upper mount hole is moved inward more, to allow for more camber.

[veilside180sx]

These have the new flanges, but are not built off the new jigs. They were already made before the jigs were.

The 8610 is only available in 2 lengths, rather than the 8611 which is available in twice that.

[veilside180sx]

As requested more pics. The gland nuts just showed up today, and I'll start shipping them as each persons inserts show up.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2068/2384844902_13c5a5ffeb.jpg

Jesse has the patience of a saint, and spoolin_sample is right there with him

[V1A]

Sweet. Can I claim four of those?! I have pile of parts waiting to go on the car... I just need these things, and my 8611s, and my GC kit, first:rolleyes:

[AceInHole]

Jesse has the patience of a saint, and spoolin_sample is right there with him

PJ, on the other hand, has an event on April 13th. :mad:





JK. I <3 Rich no matter how deformed his nuts are.

[veilside180sx]

Ones pictured are for the following, and the others will be done at the pc'er this weekend i'm hoping. I'm just waiting on the Z32 brackets to show up...but they should be here any day.

2 8610 S14/Z32 rears (Jesse) Black
2 8611 S14/Z32 rears (PJ) Blue to match
2 8611 S13/Z32 rears (Chris) Black
2 8611 S13 front (Chris) Black
2 8611 S14 front (Jesse) Black
2 8611 S14 front (Jason) Black

The teal/blue S14 fronts are still available though. I may just have them re-powdercoated black though.

[Epstein]

Woot!! Check is in the mail. Can't wait to get these things on my car!

[spool_sample]

PJ, on the other hand, has an event on April 13th. :mad:

Same here, PJ.

Since I'm throwing the fronts on this weekend, the car should have some interesting handling characteristics with fresh 8611s up front and blown Apexi World Sports in the rear. :p

Oh well, I guess I deserve it by making Richard do extra work. :D

[tdm racer]

Sweet. What do the stock s14 rear look like?

[BigOdom1]

no need for stock rear the yellows work but for 8611 you need a housing or if you use z32

[tdm racer]

I was getting the front 8611 with 8610 rears.

[veilside180sx]

I haven't finished up a set of stock spindle rears yet...it's being a pain.

[vw_nissan]

I haven't finished up a set of stock spindle rears yet...it's being a pain.

patiently waiting......:)

[veilside180sx]

Just so everyone knows...I've ordered the inserts for everyone, and am waiting for Koni to fill the order. It appears they are a little backordered but I'm told they should be here any day now.

[a_ahmed]

me want koni 8611 front and rear (z32 fork style) for an s13 :)

[spool_sample]

Just so everyone knows...I've ordered the inserts for everyone, and am waiting for Koni to fill the order. It appears they are a little backordered but I'm told they should be here any day now.

<-- *crossing his fingers because he just found some Z32 uprights*

:D

[veilside180sx]

<-- *crossing his fingers because he just found some Z32 uprights*

:D

The batch of Z32 brackets should've shipped last Friday, so I should get them really soon.

[a_ahmed]

*me waiting* :D finally i will own them too :)

[underdog17]

i must say, i got my set on saturday and it was well worth the wait. now i have to get everything ready to go in. probably next weekend and i can't wait :D:D

[Epstein]

How about an update? I'm just itching to wrench on my suspension!

[a_ahmed]

I paid richard for the housings front and rear (z32 fork type), koni 8611 front and rear dampers, 525lbs 5" spring front(although I thought 550" 6" front too ill let him decide lol), 450lbs 6" rear, gc camber/caster plates front, tein rear plates.

He told me though he is on vacation so cant pick up this sat/sunday or something...

im so anxious..

[veilside180sx]

I leave Saturday for So. Cal. Koni is backordered at least another week before they fill the order for the inserts. (waiting for a shipment from Holland)

[Your Mom]

"disneyland" adam sandler

dude seriously off all the place to go in socal. weak!

[a_ahmed]

When is richard coming back from disneyland i want my coilovers hahhaha :D

[veilside180sx]

I'm back from vacation, but am in limbo waiting on Koni. I've contacted both Koni and the distributor both trying to get an accurate ETA on delivery, but have not heard back yet.

[veilside180sx]

I heard back from Gordon @ Koni today and was notified it would be 2-3 wks depending on customs.

[a_ahmed]

oh cmooon.. holy **** :(... damn it.......

[Epstein]

I heard back from Gordon @ Koni today and was notified it would be 2-3 wks depending on customs.

Works for me. It'll be 2-3 weeks before I return from a China business trip. Want me to pick you up some Ksports while I'm out there? :D

I've been waiting a lot long than you, A_ahmed! :p

[a_ahmed]

Me waiting still :( lol. I guess you're waiting still too hehe. It's been more than a month lol :(

Any updates?

[spool_sample]

Works for me. It'll be 2-3 weeks before I return from a China business trip. Want me to pick you up some Ksports while I'm out there? :D

I've been waiting a lot long than you, A_ahmed! :p

I might have you beat, I've been waiting since December. :p

Richard's good for it, though.

[a_ahmed]

wth?! lol WHAT? Other guys got their koni 86xx a while ago how can that be :S hell no.. cmooon... i need my car track ready for june lol :(

[veilside180sx]

It was a special circumstance for his...not typical=)

[spool_sample]

It was a special circumstance for his...not typical=)

Yeah, it was mostly my fault for wanting stock-spindle shocks for rules requirements, then saying F it and buying Z32 uprights. :p

[a_ahmed]

ah okay.. PHEW LOL :)

[AceInHole]

wth?! lol WHAT? Other guys got their koni 86xx a while ago how can that be :S hell no.. cmooon... i need my car track ready for june lol :(

I still don't have my rear shocks.... with the test and tune in 2 weeks, and Devens National Tour 2 weeks after that. On top of it all, I'm getting beat by DSP cars >.<

At least it gives me time to get everything else squared away....

[WilloW]

You guys aren't the only one waiting, but I would rather have it done right.

[a_ahmed]

Richard told me they are back ordered from like Holland or something (8611 front and rear for me...)

[veilside180sx]

Koni's are manufactured in Holland. They keep a decent stock of most things in the Kentucky, but we are going through more 8611's than they are used to. So it'll take them awhile to overcome this shortage. This whole shipment is sold out (to all of us) and we'll be getting part of the next one as well.

[Epstein]

That really puts things in perspective! We bought all the 8611's in the country that aren't on allotment, plus all the next shipment! hahaha

[spool_sample]

That really puts things in perspective! We bought all the 8611's in the country that aren't on allotment, plus all the next shipment! hahaha

lmao.

NRR rolls deep. :P

[veilside180sx]

That really puts things in perspective! We bought all the 8611's in the country that aren't on allotment, plus all the next shipment! hahaha

I'm sure they are a little confused where this GREAT need came from=)

[a_ahmed]

^hahahaha.

That is awesome.

[a_ahmed]

So like, when do the hollanders intend to send us some lol

[WishIHadaSilvia]

You should convince them to just start making them with threaded shock bodies and pieces to bolt on 240s, it would be convenient for everyone!

[silverbullet]

hellz to the yea!

[veilside180sx]

You should convince them to just start making them with threaded shock bodies and pieces to bolt on 240s, it would be convenient for everyone!

It'll never happen...as much as it would simplify things. It's too expensive to setup the compression damping on the side of the damper rather than the bottom.

[a_ahmed]

Richard are there any estimates as to when they will ship from Holland :(

[veilside180sx]

Well I was told 2-3 wks (more than likely 3), 12 days ago. I don't bug them until that time frame is up, because that's a quick way to burn contacts at companies such as Koni.

[a_ahmed]

So that's 1.5 weeks more I suppose God willing :-/ Alright... hopefully all goes well, really looking forward to it all...

I have my wife and parents wondering when the coilovers will come haha, it's awesome.

Will you be able to paint them the original blue we had going for a while or it's gona be black still, I love that blue.

[veilside180sx]

tdm_racer's inserts arrived today, but still waiting on the big batch

[a_ahmed]

oooh sexxx! That's awesome!

[McCoy]

Let's keep this thread on topic. a_ahmed, I deleted the off topic portion of your post...

[a_ahmed]

lol alright :( I talk too much i know :-/ I appologize.

Still waiting for them sexoilovers :P

[tdm racer]

Thanks for the update veilside, I can't wait for them to arrive.

BTW: anyone selling z32 rear uprights?

[veilside180sx]

The main issue that I'm encountering is dealing with Koni over the 8611-1257 inserts (the front inserts and same one is used on the rear S13).

Koni has very much under guessed what the need would be and didn't order very many. I'm doing what I can to get what I can out of this order, but so far I've only secured 6 from this shipment and I've ordered 16.

[Epstein]

Is there any way to get units from parties/companies that have these on allocation? Would a Summit/Jegs have these in a warehouse somewhere? What is a place like ZZYZX or ProParts doing?

[veilside180sx]

Pro Parts/Truechoice I'm betting are the only ones that got any allocation. (they charge close to $40/insert more though) I'm sure ZZYZX is in the same boat that I am, as they don't sell any more than I do. (from what I've seen...probably less than I do)

[a_ahmed]

Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since they told you 2-3 weeks. heh...

[veilside180sx]

Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since they told you 2-3 weeks. heh...

I explained this in the post right above you

[Epstein]

are we there yet?
are we there yet?
are we there yet?

LOL

[turtl631]

Man, we really threw those Hollanders off.

Thanks for keeping us posted Veilside.

[veilside180sx]

Tonight I'll make a post that shows the order that everyone paid/ordered so you know where you stand.

spool_sample (S14 8610 rear)-housings complete...off to powdercoater this weekend
tdm_racer (S14 front/rear) housings complete...off to powdercoater this weekend
Epstein (S13 front/rear) housings done...waiting on inserts (should show up really soon)
V1A (front/8610 rear)
Ross (S14 rears)
Will (S14 rears)
Scole (2 S13 fronts/Yellow rears)
ahmed (S13 front/rear)
jbennett (S13 front/rear)

I'll continue to add to this when I get home and check what time the payments came in.

Am I missing anyone?

[spool_sample]

tdm_racer
Epstein
Ross
Scole
ahmed
jbennett


:(

*continues patiently waiting*

[a_ahmed]

woooohooooooo 2 months of waiting haha :)

I was reading the other day the scooby guys started doing this like 2-3 months prior to nrr/veilside (mid-2007) but for scoobies. So I'm guessing they're the next best thing that's leaching our koni 86xx orders.

[turtl631]

Yea, what do you think we're talking about every time we mention ZZYZX?

[a_ahmed]

I wasn't talking about zzyzx, I was talking about people who were building the setups and housings themselves for cheaper than zzyzx similar to ours... and... some other companies doing it, I have to google it again it was a thread all about koni 86xx coilovers for scoobies being tested.

[turtl631]

Ah. I don't know why you'd do that unless you were really strapped for cash, the ZZYZX stuff is pretty nice and seems affordable for the quality.

[spool_sample]

Ah. I don't know why you'd do that unless you were really strapped for cash, the ZZYZX stuff is pretty nice and seems affordable for the quality.

Yeah, the EM Sports are pretty similar to what Richard is making but with extra features... the built-in bump adjuster is a good idea, changing the compression with a screwdriver is a PITA.

The Competition version is like $3000 without camber plates, though.

[veilside180sx]

Here's a picture of the old vs. the new (based off the new jigs I made)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2514226799_0b8e0b8678.jpg?v=0

It's a full inch higher than the other one, which will add some more travel in there.

[spool_sample]

Here's a picture of the old vs. the new (based off the new jigs I made)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2514226799_0b8e0b8678.jpg?v=0

It's a full inch higher than the other one, which will add some more travel in there.

Would it be possible to upgrade to the newer housings for those of us who already have the older design?

i.e. like SPL's upgrade program.

[veilside180sx]

Would it be possible to upgrade to the newer housings for those of us who already have the older design?

i.e. like SPL's upgrade program.

We'll see after I get more caught up on everything

[veilside180sx]

Here's some pics of a few of the ones I got finished today.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2515560462_34d1995506.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2227/2515560470_4856ec94db.jpg?v=0

[Your Mom]

nice job on the new placement, i think people will like that much better. a whole inch should be just about right.

[Def]

Yea, I think an inch will be a good compromise between droop and getting that slizzammed look. The Koni supplied bumpstops are so long that you will still probably be getting quite a bit of bumpstop to slow the car down before tire/fender contact is made if you're dorifto low.

I'll probably have to step up to some 6" or longer springs up front though if I upgrade. Small price to pay.

[a_ahmed]

oh sex, i cant wait to get mine. More travel is always good :)

The new black actually looks good, I think I was asking you if we could still get it blue but the black is kind of nice :)

The adjuster thingamajig is just a flat screwdriver style thing correct? Having a built in adjuster would ease things up on the go....

[spool_sample]

The adjuster thingamajig is just a flat screwdriver style thing correct? Having a built in adjuster would ease things up on the go....

Yep. Just get a tiny flathead - if you don't have one already - and keep it in the car with the rebound adjuster.

And a built-in adjuster would be nice, but it's not needed and would probably jack the price up more.

[Def]

oh sex, i cant wait to get mine. More travel is always good :)

The new black actually looks good, I think I was asking you if we could still get it blue but the black is kind of nice :)

The adjuster thingamajig is just a flat screwdriver style thing correct? Having a built in adjuster would ease things up on the go....

There's no way to "build in" an adjuster. You'll see when you get some.

Just get a stubby flathead. It's easy, you just reach down and click-click to whatever level you want.

[Bdizzle]

So the new housing let you go lower than the old ones correct?

[veilside180sx]

So the new housing let you go lower than the old ones correct?

Basically, but more importantly they allow to use a little more travel.

[turtl631]

I need to measure the camber I can get on my fronts. It's quite a bit...I think there may be a happy medium regarding camber and clearance between the first run housings, and this batch. My Z33 wheels won't fit w/o spacers, but they're 17x8 +32 or something, so pretty marginal regarding general wisdom for wheel fitment with coilovers. I'm also using 7" springs up front. Definitely doesn't help clearance. But yea, I'm guessing at least -10* camber is doable with the housings and the ebay plates.

[veilside180sx]

spool_sample (S14 8610 rear)-housings complete...off to powdercoater this weekend
tdm_racer (S14 front/8610 rear) housings complete...off to powdercoater this weekend
Epstein (S13 front/rear) housings done...waiting on inserts (should show up really soon)
V1A (S14 front/8610 rear) housings done...off to powdercoater this weekend
Ross (S14 rears) housings done and off to powdercoater this weekend
Will (S14 rears)
Scole (2 S13 fronts/Yellow rears) Housings done and off to powdercoater
bwnzor (S14 front/rear)
ahmed (S13 front/rear)
jbennett (S13 front/rear)
Soonethreecoupe (S13 front/rear)

[AceInHole]

I need to measure the camber I can get on my fronts. It's quite a bit...I think there may be a happy medium regarding camber and clearance between the first run housings, and this batch. My Z33 wheels won't fit w/o spacers, but they're 17x8 +32 or something, so pretty marginal regarding general wisdom for wheel fitment with coilovers. I'm also using 7" springs up front. Definitely doesn't help clearance. But yea, I'm guessing at least -10* camber is doable with the housings and the ebay plates.

Yup. I've currently got both generations of housings, and somewhere in the middle is where they need to be :P I ended up not being able to use the 2nd generation housings due to 18x10 +10's not clearing the springs I had (might've cleared if I used shorter springs and raised the perch).

The first gen housings I have didn't allow me to get any more than about 1°of camber (probably even less). I ended up using a hole saw on the camber plates to extend the slot inboard, and that got me to about 2.5°. Slotting the upper bolt hold on the housing flanges netted me another 0.6°, bringing me to a total of 3.1° on both sides. Ideally, I think I'd want to be able to get to about 4° max (with my "customized" camber plates), and adjust down from there (depending on spring/ swaybar rate). I'll do some further testing with the housings I have and get some hard numbers on where the upper and lower bolt holes need to be.

[tdm racer]

Wooo Hooo!!!!

[a_ahmed]

Don't forget mine are front s13/8611 and rear s13/z32/8611 :)

[veilside180sx]

All the rears are Z32. The 8610 rears are the same as 8611 rears with the exception of the S14 8610 rears.

[bwnzor]

hey this is poziden from zilvia. i didnt realise this thread was going. could you include me in your list? ill start following this thread for updates. thanks!

[a_ahmed]

Heh.. we've been waiting 2months+... you're in the back of the list then :P Some of the people that ordered are not yet getting them.. luckily i'm one on the top of the list in the order... there was suppose to be 16 sets or something like that and only 6 arrived... etc... the dampers are backordered... veilside/richard always updates us here so... still waiting.. but progress finally being made.

[veilside180sx]

Heh.. we've been waiting 2months+... you're in the back of the list then :P Some of the people that ordered are not yet getting them.. luckily i'm one on the top of the list in the order... there was suppose to be 16 sets or something like that and only 6 arrived... etc... the dampers are backordered... veilside/richard always updates us here so... still waiting.. but progress finally being made.

Actually if you look at the list...he ordered before you.=)

[bwnzor]

Actually if you look at the list...he ordered before you.=)

ouch. msg length

[turtl631]

Great, I can't wait to get the rears. Half 8611/half Stance is such a tease. Unfortunately school stuff is picking up as finals approach, so I probably won't get to do much with the car for a few weeks.

[a_ahmed]

Oh shizzle LOL, UMFFF it feels FOREVER MAAAAN. 2 months or more now lol... I think i ordered and paid for everything in early april if i recall... lol... I await my sexoilovers. That'd be a nice brand name if we were to make these a brand name hehe.

[turtl631]

^Worst brand name ever

[veilside180sx]

For the record I want everyone to know how much I appreciate your patience working through the supply issues.

[AceInHole]

Still well worth it, even if FedEx made it a PITA to recieve.

[a_ahmed]

^Worst brand name ever

pshht it would sell like cookies on zilvia and all s chassis forums, "YO MAN I GOT NON JDM TYTE SEXOILOVERS!!!!111oneone"

[veilside180sx]

I got some potential good news today, but I want to confirm it before I say anything.

[bwnzor]

I got some potential good news today, but I want to confirm it before I say anything.

cocktease180sx?

[veilside180sx]

cocktease180sx?

I do what I can.=)

I didn't hear back from them today, so hopefully I'll know tomorrow.

[a_ahmed]

Not even a hint :-/ That's pure evil haha...

[vw_nissan]

I do what I can.=)

I didn't hear back from them today, so hopefully I'll know tomorrow.

Any good news for me???? :(

[veilside180sx]

All the Ground Controls are in transit, but rather than drop ship to me (for what reason I'll never know) they ship to the supplier and then to me.

[vw_nissan]

Ahhh.....hope they will be here soon enough.

[a_ahmed]

me too...

[veilside180sx]

I left a couple of messages yesterday, but haven't heard back.

[veilside180sx]

We've been playing voicemail tag yesterday, but I am dropping off a bunch of housings at the powdercoater tonight. (They'll be ready on Monday)

[a_ahmed]

coolies! Good to hear updates :)

[a_ahmed]

Still playing chase? :(

[bwnzor]

any updates?

[veilside180sx]

Working on it...as I type=) (well...talking to them to get tracking numbers anyway)

[a_ahmed]

Tell them they will get the wrath of nissan road racing forums if they don't deliver at the corner of the alley street to the man with the hat. :cool:

>_>

<_<

shh lol

[veilside180sx]

A lot of them are on their way (dampers)...I'm not going to trust what I'm told until I have them here though. The GC should either be with them, or right behind them as well.

[scole]

If they shipped the amount they told you, who on the list would be covered?

[veilside180sx]

If they shipped the amount they told you, who on the list would be covered?

At least the top 2/3 of the list would be covered, but more than that. (including yours=) I'll have to double check it.

[tdm racer]

Cool news, btw, I've got in my front and rear tein upper mounts, g/c coilovers, and z32 rear uprights. Do I need to get anything else before the shocks and housings arrive?

[vw_nissan]

The GC should either be with them, or right behind them as well.

I want my GC....:(

[veilside180sx]

I want my GC....:(

I'm pretty sure they are in there...but I'm not trusting anything until I get my eyes on them.

[veilside180sx]

Cool news, btw, I've got in my front and rear tein upper mounts, g/c coilovers, and z32 rear uprights. Do I need to get anything else before the shocks and housings arrive?

That sounds about right.=)

[bwnzor]

At least the top 2/3 of the list would be covered, but more than that. (including yours=) I'll have to double check it.

is there an eta for those of us on the bottom third of the list?

[veilside180sx]

is there an eta for those of us on the bottom third of the list?

They could be included in the shipment, but I don't want to get ahead of myself until I get my hands on it.

[a_ahmed]

I better be on the completed list... 3 months waiting now lol :(

[veilside180sx]

Got tracking numbers, and it'll be here on Monday or Tues (as soon as I can get to the depot to pick it up since they won't drop it off w/o someone here)

[a_ahmed]

yay.. longest wait ever hehe.. finally.. looking forward to tomorrow/tuesday

[veilside180sx]

yay.. longest wait ever hehe.. finally.. looking forward to tomorrow/tuesday

I take it you haven't ordered items from Japan. I waited over a year for 3 different items from Japan. :D

[veilside180sx]

spool_sample (S14 8610 rear)-Housings are done, and your dampers are here...looking for a box
tdm_racer (S14 front/8610 rear) Front housings are done and front/rear dampers are here (need to finish up rears this week)
Epstein (S13 front/rear) Housings are done, front/rear dampers are here, camber plates are here, waiting on GC
V1A (S14 front/8610 rear) Front housings are done, front dampers are here (need to finish up rears this week)
Ross (S14 rears) Housings are done, dampers are here, looking for a box
Will (S14 rears)
Scole (2 S13 fronts/Yellow rears) Housings done, rear dampers are here, waiting on GC
bwnzor (S14 front/rear) Dampers are here
a_ahmed (S13 front/rear) Dampers are here
jbennett (S13 front/rear) Dampers are here

I'm going to follow up today on the rest of the dampers/GC, and I'll double check my counts of what I have here.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2588084662_881e08e950.jpg?v=0

[a_ahmed]

Maybe we should maim some people into wanting koni8611s some more with clever marketting and make koni bring more to US/Canada shores :P

I can draw a mascot or something lmao

edited drawing I did (dont mind the ****tiness it was an hour drawing, i know the errors, no worries, its my first drawing in 3 years since i graduated my computer animation major haha)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1471/konisrcomingzp4.jpg

[veilside180sx]

The 8610's shipped and will be here on the 19th (I have a tracking number)=)

Were checking back on the GC stuff still..

[spool_sample]

spool_sample (S14 8610 rear)-Housings are done, and your dampers are here...looking for a box

Woot.

Did you ever get that quote from GC for the camber plates?

[veilside180sx]

Woot.

Did you ever get that quote from GC for the camber plates?

Doh, knew I forgot something

[turtl631]

Maybe we should maim some people into wanting koni8611s some more with clever marketting and make koni bring more to US/Canada shores :P

I can draw a mascot or something lmao

edited drawing I did (dont mind the ****tiness it was an hour drawing, i know the errors, no worries, its my first drawing in 3 years since i graduated my computer animation major haha)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1471/konisrcomingzp4.jpg

Graduated, eh?

[AceInHole]

I go more for the crappy photoshop approach:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/DeviantAd_F35.jpg


Could've had a better subtitle, but I'm still getting over some food poisoning and have been pretty "gassey" lately (need to leave my cubicle every few minutes).

[a_ahmed]

lol jokes

[Def]

I go more for the crappy photoshop approach:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/DeviantAd_F35.jpg


Could've had a better subtitle, but I'm still getting over some food poisoning and have been pretty "gassey" lately (need to leave my cubicle every few minutes).

haha - I flow balanced the PAO liquid cooling loop on Deviant's masscot. :D

[veilside180sx]

8610's showed up as expected today=)

[veilside180sx]

Just got home from the powdercoaters. Ross' are the lone blue pair.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2593633909_3804b9f55b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2593633907_5887df8f34.jpg?v=0

[vw_nissan]

No GC still?

[veilside180sx]

No GC still?

They were supposed to be getting me tracking numbers for the, but I haven't received an email back with them.

[spool_sample]

Ross' are the lone blue pair.

doh!

hmmm...

[veilside180sx]

doh!

hmmm...

Crap, I forgot you had blue as well. PM sent.

[turtl631]

haha - I flow balanced the PAO liquid cooling loop on Deviant's masscot. :D

Hm, learned a lot by googling that. Never realized that same sweet base stocks that keep my motors lubed are also cooling F22s.

[Def]

That's an F-35. AA-1 test plane to be exact.

But yes, it makes a nice dielectric cooling fluid. We use Castrol in the lab. It's not cheap...

[a_ahmed]

I want my sexoilovers lol...